I'm a bit late, but I would love to receive the link as well.
Thank you so much in advance!
Lady Viola
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DVD "JW's Faith In Action, part 1 Out of Darkness" Omits! Omits! Omits!
by Wasanelder Once ini've been watching the new dvd and it is a bull fest about russell.
i haven't even gotten half way and they already excluded one very important bit of information.
you'll recall that russell "lost" his faith and "turning away from church creeds and searching for truth, russell examined some leading oriental religions, only to find these unsatisfying".
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Woman Pastor - Awake
by Lady Viola inin the latest km i read something about the latest awake topic: 'what does god think of women pastors' or something like that.
i asked for the latest awake, but it wasn't available yet (dutch) in our hall.
who has seen this awake and want to upload it for us all?
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Lady Viola
And no women in the GB, although there are a lot of women part of the 'Slave Class'... What is up with that?
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Woman Pastor - Awake
by Lady Viola inin the latest km i read something about the latest awake topic: 'what does god think of women pastors' or something like that.
i asked for the latest awake, but it wasn't available yet (dutch) in our hall.
who has seen this awake and want to upload it for us all?
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Lady Viola
In the latest KM I read something about the latest Awake topic: 'what does God think of women pastors' or something like that. I asked for the latest Awake, but it wasn't available yet (Dutch) in our hall.
Who has seen this Awake and want to upload it for us all? I'm pretty sure they will come up with the words of Paul, but say nothing about what he really meant when he said 'woman should be quiete'. They just looove to ignore the history about Greek woman in that period. And I'm pretty sure they don't mention all the women in the bible, such as Phebe, who was a servant.
I'm curious! For the first time in months I'm curious about an Awake article... ;-)
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The no beard or facial hair rule
by Soldier77 inokay, something that has always been a side point but still a rather ridiculous rule is that brothers cannot "serve" if they have a beard/goatee/anything more than just a moustache.
at least in the states, i've heard of some congregations in some countries allow this, but they are the exception?
your experience?.
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Lady Viola
Well... in the Netherlands beards are tolerated, but..... you can't have a talk at any big meeting: DC or assemblies. Not only that but you can't be interviewed as well if you have a beard.
My dad has a beard and is a MS, and we have 3 more MS's with beards. My husband wears a beard too, but they said to him last year (the elders) that if he wanted to be a MS it wouldn't be a problem in this cong. but he had to think about how important the beard is to him. Because if he wants to give a talk or whatever on the platform they would ask him to shave it off.
It is so rediculous that every time this subject comes up, steam goes out of my ears!!
(for your information: we're trying to fade, but family is asking us so many questions where we were etc. The only solution is to move, but we haven't got the money yet.)
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Watchtower whitewash cartoon
by Aussie Oz inhey all,.
i did this tonight for a bit of fun.... feel free to copy it and do whatever you want with it!.
me... i might run off a hundred and litter a kh carpark.... oz.
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Lady Viola
Very good!!! I like it...
@blacksheep: sorry about that.... NOT!!! hahaha! Sorry, but I just had 'a few' after the match. ;-) (and I'm from the Netherlands... ;-))
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Why are the British football team so useless?
by highdose inlast nights match was humiliating.
and lets face it... if they even make it to the semi's it will be amazing!.
ok you could say well they are playing agianst the best teams in the world... but other teams manage!?!.
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Lady Viola
Because they're not Dutch.... ;-)
2-0 today against Denmark. Not a very good game though, the second half was a bit better.
A great clip to reminds the good old days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-gvK3UOJvs&feature=player_embedded
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The Generation Watchtower (TOMORROW!) and The Cough of Incredulity
by slimboyfat inthe watchtower will be studied tomorrow that contains the new overlapping generations teaching.
paragraph 10 reads:.
"he evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation.".
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Lady Viola
It was AWFUL! The talk before the Watchtower was about 'loyalty' and although the brother who gave the talk was nice and did a good job, it was all about loyal to Jehovah (read: his organisation) and that Jehovah hates disloyal people etc. etc.
Then song 116: the light is getting brighter. I needed a bucket by that time.
During the Watchtower I was almost eating my pen en went to the loo twice to bang my head against the cold tiles, I was so angry I couldn't breathe! But no coughing or anything unusual in my congregation. Everybody just acted normally: talking and laughing with each other, giving answers, reading scriptures and just agried with it all... I don't understand it... at all!
I was singing this song on the way back. (love this version of it by the way)
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Did your congregation have "Talent" Shows?
by lepermessiah ini saw this video on youtube and didnt know if i should laugh or crawl into the fetal position.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abm0t-qhllc&feature=related.
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we had several "talent" shows over the years in my original congregation - it was the only annual gathering more nauseating that the meetings.. my friend and i would always bring our walkmans and blare heavy metal in the back - hoping to block out the embarassing crap on the stage.you always had a few older ones get up on stage and slaughter a kingdumb song.
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Lady Viola
LOL!! This really looks like the first lesson of Sister Act 1 with that old lady behind the piano.
But I used to organise a talentshow in my congr. And we had some pretty good performances! Two brothers that performed the bluesbrothers were fantastic and the little girls dancing on Chipz were so cute. My congr. in England did organise a talentshow as well and the stand-up comedy was very good!
And the performance of my flowergirl and my dad and some brothers at my wedding was of course on of the best show e-ver!
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My Memories of Bethel in the Franz Era - part one
by Dogpatch infood was passed from one side and if you were #10 you may not get too much to eat!
when i finally did, she was not at all interested.
but i was lucky it didnt work out, for she never would have left the watchtower.
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Lady Viola
Very interesting!!
And although you're 2 years older than my mum, it must be said: you're very cute on the pictures!
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What are JW's saying about Ray Franz's death?
by Think About It insome of you who still go to meetings or are around jw's.......what have you heard them say about the death of ray franz?.
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think about it .
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Lady Viola
I have posted a picture on Facebook, no name (i'm still trying to fade) and they replied 'did your grandfather die?'
Nobody know's who he was... I hope a lot of them will someday.
@Blondie:
I have found the announcement in the English CD. On mine: Dutch, there are no hits on Ray.
*** km 8/80 p. 2 Announcements ***
? This is a notification that Raymond Victor Franz is no longer a member of the Governing Body and of the Brooklyn Bethel family as of May 22, 1980.
And some other hits:
*** w79 1/1 p. 11 Building and Planting in France ***
After a program retracing the two years of efforts required to put up the new building, several recorded messages from Witnesses in other French-speaking lands were heard. Then Raymond Franz, a member of the Governing Body, gave the dedication talk. He highlighted the importance of serving Jehovah with joy. (Neh. 8:10) The vanity of human efforts and ephemeral glory (such as that of Caesar and Napoleon) were contrasted with the joyful work of preaching the good news of Jehovah’s kingdom. (Eccl. 1:3-7, 11) It was shown that if Christians continue finding joy in Jehovah’s service, awaiting his due time for destroying wickedness, they will end up by being convinced that everything has worked out perfectly, with “nothing to add” and “nothing to subtract.”—Eccl. 3:11, 14.
The dedication of this new Bethel annex was a very happy occasion indeed. And the continued evidences of divine blessing fill us with determination to carry on faithfully in the spiritual building and planting work in France.
*** w76 11/1 pp. 671-672 Gilead’s 61st Graduation a Spiritual Treat ***
After Karl Klein read a number of heartwarming telegrams and other messages from various continents, Grant Suiter was heard. He called attention to our hands, which are the most wonderful of all tools. Rather than be “fooling around,” our attitude should be, “God, show me how best to use my hands.” He was followed by Raymond Franz, who himself had attended Gilead School and served some twenty years in foreign assignments. He urged following the cultured and highly educated apostle Paul, who learned to be content regardless of circumstances. Like Paul, the Gilead graduates may well be called upon to bear the ‘brand marks of Christ’ due to hardships and persecution.—Gal. 6:17; Phil. 4:11, 13.
*** w75 1/15 p. 60 Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses Enlarged ***
The Governing Body is now composed of eighteen members, all anointed, and the other ten are as follows: Frederick W. Franz, Raymond V. Franz, George D. Gangas, Leo K. Greenlees, John O. Groh, Milton G. Henschel, William K. Jackson, Nathan H. Knorr, Grant Suiter and Lyman A. Swingle.
*** yb80 p. 159 France ***
Finally, the new annex was completed, and on Saturday, May 13, 1978, Brother Raymond Franz of the Governing Body gave the dedication talk in French. The Incarville annex now houses the shipping department and also accommodates Bethel brothers who work at Louviers. Almost all the 34 bedrooms on the second and third floors are already occupied. At present the French Bethel family totals 136 members, of which 46 are at Boulogne and 90 at Louviers-Incarville.
*** yb78 p. 254 Spain ***
The last few years have seen encouraging visits by various members of the Governing Body, and these visits have been appreciated greatly by the Spanish brothers. In 1974 Brothers N. H. Knorr and F. W. Franz visited Spain together, and were due to address a large crowd of brothers in a Barcelona bullring. However, permission was not granted by the authorities, as the date coincided with the religious holiday of December 25. Swiftly, plans were changed and all the pioneers and elders were invited to a special meeting that had to be held some twenty-one kilometers (13 miles) from Barcelona in an unused industrial building that was under consideration for purchase as an assembly hall. Over 5,000 packed in to listen to Brother Knorr talk about the worldwide expansion of the work, and then paid rapt attention to Brother Franz’ exposition of Psalm 91. Just over a year later, Brother Raymond Franz was invited to inaugurate that same building, which had been converted into a magnificent assembly hall with seating for 1,300, as well as an ample cafeteria dining room, and baptism pool.
*** yb73 p. 257 The Governing Body ***
The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses consists of eleven brothers, all anointed of God. They are as follows: Frederick W. Franz, Raymond V. Franz, George D. Gangas, Leo K. Greenlees, John O. Groh, Milton G. Henschel, William K. Jackson, Nathan H. Knorr, Grant Suiter, Thomas J. Sullivan and Lyman A. Swingle. It was determined on September 6, 1971, that the chairmanship for the Governing Body should rotate according to alphabetical arrangement. So for the past year Frederick W. Franz served as the presiding overseer at the meetings of the Governing Body. Each member of the Governing Body also takes a turn at the head of the Bethel table, acting as chairman for a week at a time. This has proved to be a very fine arrangement, and there is a rotation of elders at the head of the table in each of the Society’s branch offices.
*** yb72 p. 158 Dominican Republic ***
Raymond Franz, a missionary in Puerto Rico, was now asked to deliver a petition personally to Dictator Trujillo, asking for the removal of the ban. Making contact with the brothers, he was advised that the best way to get in to see Trujillo was to send a telegram requesting an interview. “Respectfully request privilege of brief interview with Your Excellency. An American educator on 7,000-mile tour. Have information of great importance for you and your country.” This was the text of the telegram sent and here is Brother Franz’ account of what happened
*** km 5/77 p. 1 Branch Letter ***
Recently Raymond Franz returned from a zone trip to Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay and Chile. He reported that the 123 members of the Bethel family in São Paulo, Brazil, find that their once-spacious factory and office facilities are now pressed to capacity. Interest in the Kingdom message is great in that part of the field, over 210,000 attending their recent series of district assemblies. The thirty-five missionaries there with whom Brother Franz met have served in their assignments for a total of 476 years—a reflection of the zeal that many of the brothers there feel for Jehovah’s service. In both Paraguay and Uruguay, Brother Franz met many of the friends from Argentina who crossed the border in order to assemble with their brothers in lands where there is greater freedom to do so. Despite changed circumstances in Argentina, they are continuing to press ahead with the Lord’s work.